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    Wonder if that person maybe has some kind of a problem that makes it difficult for them to concentrate and focus their attention when someone is talking to them or something and they just totally missed the detail about the medicine being prescribed. Maybe they need to see a doctor about it.

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    well at least this person suggests a doctor, some will reference a YouTube video where an influencer talks about gut supplements that will completely cure any mental health issues, cancer, diabetes and coronary heart diseases linked to genetic factors

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        Or paleo diets.

        There is a tremendous amount of emerging research indicating a lot of brain dysfunction is rooted in insulin resistance. Which is a direct result of diet. I can’t speak for paleo, but if it’s a subset of keto, there is very promising research showing ketogenic diets increase available energy in the brain. By passing insulin resistance. Helping people with mental conditions.

        https://www.metabolicmind.org/research

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    some people aren’t there for a conversation, but are just waiting for the right moment to say the thing they want to say to get the brain chemicals they reward themselves with once they say it.

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      High five for you and everybody else here. It’s like one of the 12 Rules for Life, assume that the other person knows things that you don’t. Remembering that rule tames the racing thoughts and helps me to listen effectively for a few moments. It holds relationships together.

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      get the brain chemicals they reward themselves

      Damn. They should probably see a doctor about that and not take drugs.

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      That makes sense. Sometimes common arguments, advice, and old ideas get shared ad nauseum around social circles, like moldy old memes that everyone, except them, is tired of hearing. One person says stupid idea with conviction, and others listen. Now when someone else repeats stupid idea around the first person, they know they’ll be agreed with - it’s an easy way to get that dopamine hit and strengthen a social bond. Others in the group then start to think that stupid idea is important for them to also believe, and the effect snowballs, as more of them share stupid idea with others - expecting to be agreed with.

      People keep doing this, over and again, never once examining the words they repeat. This leads to people who confidently say ignorant crap like, “You don’t need medicine, you seem fine to me!” despite the fact that they’ve only ever seen you after you’d taken your medicine. It’s likely someone in their social circle put that idea in their head once, and they never critically examined it because it’s easier and more rewarding to simply repeat things without thinking about them.

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    “Have you tried [holistic bullshit]? It worked great for my [barely an acquaintance] who had [unrelated issues]!”

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      It’s such a shame how the word “holistic” has been co-opted by the woo-woo brigade. The concept it’s meant to represent, which is simply “the idea that the whole is more than merely the sum of its parts,” makes sense on its own, and is applied in legit medicine.

      However, the word has been associated with snake oil so much that it’s hard to take it seriously anymore. I was in my mid-20s by the time I learned the actual meaning of the word; until then I assumed it was akin to “homeopathy” or some other garbage.

      • To riff on what you said, I think in the US 9/10 people think homeopathy refers to home remedies and traditional medicine. Because it seems like the word home is in there. I try to explain to people that homeopathy really is and their eyes glaze over like I’m telling them some conspiracy theory. I hate that shit so much.

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      It’s more fun when it’s your own mother trying to sell her MLM holistic bullshit. No mom, I don’t need your snake oil pills, I needed a therapist.

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        My mom: you don’t need therapy; all a therapist will do is tell you everything is your mom’s fault

        (Spoiler: I did and they did and it was)

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          Acceptance of the ways my mom failed me is a step towards detachment from her and healthy processing of my traumas. [That’ll be $15,000 USD. Worth it at twice the price]

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            Yeah. I started therapy for “anger management” (I got so frustrated at unmet needs that I bent a fork in half at a restaurant, which caused my still-boyfriend to urge me into therapy).

            Two months in, my mom visited and was flagrantly awful in ways I couldn’t emotionally repress. That helped my therapist zero in on the real issue and forced me to recognize it as well.

            My pocketbook is poorer but my non-relationship with my mom is much healthier. Oh! And I now am much better able to recognize my unmet needs and meet them before I bend a fork.

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              Way to go with meeting your needs! I know how hard that is - my mom also trained me to put myself second, and treats me as an extension of herself. I recently (within the last year) realized that not only do I not reach out for help when I need it, but I don’t even recognize when I need help. It took my old manager seeing I was stressed and saying she wanted to help me, but that she’s “not a mind-reader” and I have to actually ask her for it, for me to step back and realize that my approach isn’t typical. It turns out I’m so accustomed to having to go through shit entirely by myself, that the thought that somebody else might be able to help doesn’t even occur to me.

              By coincidence, guess who dismissed me as a child anytime I went to her for help? Yep, dear ol’ Mommy, telling me shit like “you’re just too sensitive” and “the bullies won’t remember [that awful rumor they made up and are currently spreading against me] years from now.” Mmhmm, surefire solutions right there that definitely demonstrate concern and understanding of my issues.

              Why yes, I am still bitter, why do you ask?

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                Thanks and I’m glad you’re on a similar journey. Well, not glad you had to start the journey, but glad you’re progressing on it.

                I have grief for the mother I didn’t have, but it’s ok.

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      HR is the office cop.

      NEVER talk to American cops.

      My HR and I have a wordless dirty look relationship.

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          And HR won’t let you be a liability for a lawsuit either. HR is there to protect the company, not you. If they see that you could be a threat in terms of “work discrimination” they will get rid of you first for other reasons so you won’t have the chance

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            Then you can take them to court for wrongful termination.

            I’ve never worked for a company where HR was anything but useless. When you get fired for shit like this (or in general) it’s usually someone in the management chain calling the shots.

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              “I would like to file a wrongful termination suit”

              “We’ll need $50K for pre-trial, more if they won’t settle”

              “Oh shit I thought lawsuits were free???”

              “Common mistake, we get that all the time”

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                I guess we just make shit up now? The NLRB doesn’t have fees for reporting violations, and Pro-Bono lawyers charge a percent of the settlement not "more if they won’t settle. "

                Yeah, it wouldn’t be worth the effort to go after for a minimum wage gig, but for a 150k career? Definitely. Don’t let “fear of HR” turn you into a door mat that tolerates a toxic work environment.

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                  That assumes you can find a contingency lawyer that will take your case, which is not guaranteed.

                  HR is usually very careful with terminations, with policy and practices being reviewed by lawyers so as to avoid giving you anything you can use against them. They’re expert in finding justifications to terminate people while making it look above-board.

                  So you go to HR and smugly try to get someone in trouble for bothering you. They simply will not care that you feel unjustly treated. If they terminate you, it will ostensibly be because your position was eliminated, or for cause (bad performance or other reasons.) But it will really be because the business sees you as more risky and difficult to extract value from than other people who aren’t crybabies. (That is what they will see you as, no matter what.)

                  And then you go to a contingency lawyer and tell your story, and they say, “sorry, we can’t do this on contingency because their case is too strong. They documented that they have valid reasons. But if you want, our retainer is $10K to get started, and we’ll try to meditate for you.” When mediation fails: “Another $40K for trial prep.” So at this point the lawyer is fucking you too, and you’re spending 5 figures on a case you stand a good chance of losing.

                  Or, you could just say “I’m not gonna talk about my pills, dude” to your coworker, and then go eat a pop tart in the break room, and stay out of that whole entire hurricane.

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            What the fuck is this thought process? Document everything as it happens, then EEOC their ass for the obvious discrimination. Do not let people discriminate against you.

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      Calm your shit dude. Don’t go to HR over something this small.

      Just punch his dad in the cock.

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      Have some patience

      I’m not disabled myself but if a coworker says something like that they’re probably just uninformed, it just shows that their concerned for you

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        No it doesn’t. It shows they have a high and mighty attitude and they’re fucking ignorant. They can keep their lack of medical expertise to themselves.

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        Sounds like something an ableist would say. I’m sure homophobes are “just concerned” about the lifestyles of LGBTQ.

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    What part of prescribed adderall do u not understand?

    Also, it should be pretty obvious they’ve got adhd if they’re not going batshit coocoo after taking it, they’re fucking amphetamines.

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        Could be, yes. People with ADHD respond to stimulants differently to how NTs do, it usually has a more calming/relaxing or focusing effect.

        Scientifically, I think (based on all the huberman ep’s I’ve listened to) it’s cuz it makes up for our lack of dopamine receptors helping us perform tasks, and our minds act like a NT’s, and since an NT’s dopamine levels are normal it sends them into overdrive and makes them hella overstimulated.

        Dats why when NT’s take addy recreationally it makes them go mental, cuz it’s basically a controlled version of speed. I don’t do blow but I know certain man with ADHD who have and they tell me it knocks them out, like a sleeping pill.

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          My understanding is that the ADHD brain activity resembles an NT’s when they’re extremely tired or sleep deprived, with a lot of theta wave activity. Stimulants can help jog an ADHD person’s brain into alpha and beta waves, which are associated with relaxation or alertness and focus.

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            It’s a bit of both with a healthy dose of “we’re not sure”. We know that ADHD brains don’t regulate neurotransmitters properly and that the theta vs beta waves are different, but there are a lot of other mechanisms we don’t understand.

            Another great example is guanfacine. It’s primarily a blood pressure medication, but it also improves emotional regulation for ADHD patients. We think it improves connections in the prefrontal cortex, but we ultimately don’t have a solid understanding of why it actually helps.

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          I take the BEST naps right after my Vyvanse kicks in. Usually only for 20-30 minutes, but it’s very restful.

          Then I pop up and have normal energy levels.

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          I so think I can help everyone focus to an extent, but for NT’s the side effects are usually not worth the trade off, whereas if you have ADHD, you may choose to take the side effects for the benefit of the medication.

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            In comparison to the benefits, it’s hard to even consider the side effects. All I get is that my appetite vanishes and I don’t require 12 hours of sleep per day. As long as i force myself to eat there are literally no negatives lol

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              The only bad side effect for me is that if I have anxiety, then it can make the anxiety worse.

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    “You know, if you’re struggling with hearing comprehension that much, you should probably see a doctor and not talk bs.”