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I have friends that used to go to Disney 2-3 times a year. They did not live in Florida. They used to spend so much money to go multiple times a year.
They are now declaring bankruptcy.
Going to Disney is just keeping up with the Joneses.
I don’t think this works. I know DINKs and single people who work normal jobs (and a shitload of overtime) and go to Disney like six times a year because they’re total Disney freaks. Like, adult Disney people who get Disney tattoos and shit. It’s a whole vibe.
No kids and they choose to go to Disney? You could go to any number of foreign cities or beautiful beaches and they choose Disney? Wtf?
Tell me about it. I think it’s bonkers.
DINKs are already an entirely separate class tbh.
Very expensive. Hwuh huh.
The amazing thing to me is that Disney used to be cheap entertainment. 1955 admission was $1.10 with rides costing 10 to 35 cents. A teenager could take a date there for what they’d earn in an afternoon. Prices for movies, sporting events, and concerts were similar.
This is known as the cost disease. As manufacturing gets increasingly optimized, automated and cheap, the share of income that needs to be spent on everything else increases. For example, housing and services like live entertainment or healthcare.
cost disease. I never heard of this before.
My Uncle and his family are like this, his kids are adults now and they still go to Disney every year.
We’re Canadian. and he is a staunch opponent of the Canadian Healthcare system, He believes that because he can personally throw money at a Doctor, that everyone should be treated that way, first paid first served.
Fuck Disney, fuck dividing the non-super rich
Is there a “went to Disney recently and didn’t like it” category?
Not anymore, you’re now declared an undesirable immigrant and will be deported.
Don’t need to go there to know I wouldn’t like this commercial overcrowded monstrosity
Not accurate. Plenty of broke people go to Disney regularly. I know a couple of them.
Most of them up and move their entire lives to be within driving distance of it even when unable to afford. Disney families are something else
Yeah there’s the ‘goes into debt to go to disney’ crowd. That’s me.
There should be another Disney class. The “Lightning Pass/Stayed at a Disney Resort/going to multiple parks over several days” Class
The park fees alone are pretty expensive if you’d like to see more than just “Disneyland” and want to see EPCOT, Studios, etc. The try to ride the rides during any popular season you buy Lightning Passes for hundreds or even a thousand more per person, pay for parking over multiple days, stay at an expensive “resort” property…
Yeah. You can go “cheap” and stay off property, but it’s a whole different experience.
Fuck this noise. The only classes that matter are the people who are rich enough to own Disneyland, and everyone else. Quibbling over whose shit sandwich is bigger is just dividibg ourselves for their benefit.
“Give a man a gun and he can rob a bank, but give a man a bank, and he can rob the world.”
― Jim Trotter
I consider it more of a spectrum, those who are rich enough to own Disneyland on the one hand and those who are fucked the most by the system that benefits the people who are rich enough to own Disneyland on the other. Not everyone is equally fucked by the system that benefits the people who are rich enough to own Disneyland. But you’re right about the shit sandwich.
Nah there are plenty of edible rich people who aren’t rich enough to own Disney Land
The wealthy people who can’t afford to own Disneyland are closer to you than they are the people who can afford to own Disneyland.
Don’t care. They still go on the block.
Sounds like you’ve fallen for class division propaganda.
There are billionaires and not-billionaires.
The difference between a billion dollars and a million dollars is roughly a billion dollars.
That’s a great way to run out of allies. You’re closer to being homeless than a billionaire. All war is class war, however know thine enemy. There’s over 1400 billionaires in the US. That’s plenty to start with. We can start quibbling over the rest after that 1400.
https://nonprofitquarterly.org/a-clear-eyed-look-at-the-consolidation-of-a-billionaire-class/
I understand what you’re trying to do with the ‘class is the only thing that matters’, but I don’t think that is going to fly well in the US, specifically and especially when trying to get groups with troubled histories between one another to work together.
Trying to unify people by ignoring or erasing their personal or communal identities and histories is not going to be effective at unification IMO.
You sound like a Russian propagandist. It’s us against billionaires trying to eat our planet. It doesn’t get more complex than that.
1 person does not get to decide how 99% of the resources are spent.
I can assure you i’m not a Russian propagandist. You can look through my post history if you don’t believe me. I’d argue right now it’s pretty clear that the comment I’m replying to is unapologetically the propaganda here. It’s not even that I disagree with the sentiment. It’s just a bad argument for winning over folks in the US, which is full of division, and diversity of culture and opinion.
Just, like, think for even a second about who you are trying to unite against billionaires. It includes black communities, and the police who have often terrorized and weakened those communities. It includes both those who are homeless and NIMBY communities who’ve constantly lobbied to deny those homeless any type of help. It includes immigrants, and blue collar workers who’ve constantly attacked immigrants.
Regardless of whether this violence was motivated by the oppression of the ruling class, these are still actively ongoing acts of violence between working class individuals and groups. That bad blood shouldn’t be ignored. The tagline " the ruling class is our only enemy" rings hollow for those actively being attacked by other groups within the working class. The solution should not be to hand-wavingly say “let’s all just get along and unite forces”. It needs to be actively engaging with these groups, and winning people over by actually stopping the violence they experience locally.
Bad blood won’t get solved by doing nothing either. People need a common goal. Fighting against billionaires is one billions of people can get behind regardless of other demographics. It doesn’t solve the bad blood and it doesn’t erase identities it simply reminds us we can be allies against the larger issue first.
It is a catch-22 to solve the bad blood you mention before going after the billionaires because the billionaires will continue causing more bad blood and more division in the meantime. As showcased by Trump, decades of building torn down in 3mo. Doesn’t matter that he decreased taxes for the rich or openly manipulates the market for himself and other rich bastards he’s convinced 1/3 of America that its all worth it to hurt sexual and/or racial minorities. By the time you fix one divide he’s created another 5.
BuT MUh ViolEnT RevOlUtiOn!!!
Well said. Some of the people who post here are just nuts. Or edgy teens. Keep fighting the good fight for actually having nuance and common sense.
We’re not going to vote our way out of this. Violent revolution should not be the first step, however working within the system has done fuck all to stop the accumulation of wealth at the top. There is no war but class war means all of us that aren’t billionaires are in this together.
Quite the non sequitur
galaxy brain – doesn’t want to go to disney
Their advertising made me actively not want to go. They show kids screaming with joy at their parents saying they are going. My reaction would have been like, ok. I knew this, I didn’t want to go because I felt like I would disappoint my parents with a lack of excitement over going.
I’m a native Floridian who’s never been to Disney. Other Floridians seem disgusted by my presence when it comes up
Went to Disney 3x. Once when my grandpa died, then my grandma, then my dad. Allllll paid for by life insurance payouts. Not sure where I fit in here.
Grave robber
I know this is a joke but there’s people who don’t accept life insurance payouts because they legitimately feel this way.
Seems like a gross misunderstanding of life insurance and the wishes of the deceased, but people get weird about death.
That’s super strange. I hope they’re wealthy.
We’ll let you hang out in the middle group.
I went once in my early 20s. Drove all night with a friend and stayed with his grandparents. Figured I should see what it’s like since my parents didn’t have vacation money when I was a kid.
Magic Kingdom was pretty lame to a 23 year old stoner. Should have spent the gas money on drugs.
As a British guy who worked in the USA for a while, my colleagues couldn’t fathom that I had no interest in going to Disneyland. It was kinda weird the obsession some of them had with it.
Universal is better anyways.
Yeah, it’s weird and cringy how into it some adults are. I think part of it is status, though. Everyone knows Disney is expensive, so taking your family is a way to show off your status to everyone with the pics you take for social media.
Cult of Disney is eerily real. Maybe it’s the US version of how some Brits obsess over the royalty.
I remember growing up in the UK and Disneyland or Disney world was always a bit of a joke about giving loads of offers but no takers.
Then again, it wasn’t until I met Americans growing up did I realize how seriously they took Thanksgiving too.
Education levels in the US:
- Calls it Disney
- Calls it by the location of the park
- Calls it by the actual name of the specific park
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Goes to Disney World
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Goes to Disneyland
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Goes to Disneyland Paris.
The first two could be swapped, and isn’t Disney World “better” in many regards? One reason Disney secretly bought all the land in Florida was to better do what he wanted to do in California but couldn’t because of space and regulations.
Speaking as one of the weird adult Disney fans, DisneyWorld is bigger and had a lot more going on. I can spend a week at DisneyWorld and leave wanting more. Aside from all the things I enjoy, I relive memories from when I was young, when my wife and I were young, and when our kids were young.
I’ve been there 11 times (I think)
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When I was in elementary school and my parents took the family on a rare vacation.
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When I was in middle school and my mom was president of the school district’s music association, and she took me with when the band and chorus went to WDW because she didn’t trust my dad to take care of me without her (ha!).
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When I was in high school and went in another music association trip. My future wife was on the trip too. It was before we started dating, and we hung out in the pool.
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After my wife received her doctorate, we went to WDW to celebrate. I convinced her we should get what I think was called the “gold key” plan or something like that. Absolutely everything was included. I knew she would obsess over costs and skip things she wanted to try unless it was all included, so it changed from worrying about costs to trying to get her money’s worth.
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When our oldest kids were 5 & 7, we took them (our youngest was under 3, so she stayed with the grandparents).
6 & 7) My wife got continuing education credits at classes there, so we got discounted trips and took all three kids three more times.
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The oldest kids were too old to take our of school, but our youngest wasn’t, so we did a 4th continuing education trip with her, and the oldest two stayed with the grandparents (keeping everything fair).
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Another continuing education trip, but this time all the kids were too old to take out of school, so the wife and I went by ourselves. I thought it would be weird being alone in WDW when my wife was in class, but turns out it was fine. Odd thing is, we kept talking about wanting to take the kids again. So, when we were there we started planning another trip.
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We saved for more than 5 years. Took the three kids and two girlfriends. It was in 2021, so we were masked everywhere. Also, by this time, my wife was no longer working (disabled, had to give up her practice, no more continuing education). Handicapped hangtag for the car, and a wheelchair so she didn’t have to do much walking. On the last day, I was starting to feel really tired, and I thought it was just because of pushing get around in the chair all day every day. Actually I had picked up COVID. Of course several people at work got it at the same time, so I certainly had a better time catching it than they did.
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My wife and I were in the mood for another trip in 2023. Just us this time.
I have much less experience with Disneyland. I’ve been there once. When my wife was still working, but clearly having medical problems, she heard about a doctor in LA who she thought could help. My mom offered to pay for the airfare. I told my wife I would go even though I didn’t really think he would help. However, my price was a visit to Disneyland while we were there.
Disneyland is more “cozy”. I definitely appreciated the vibe. People talk about it having something special from being the park that Walt actually knew and worked on, and I definitely thought that was the case. I’d definitely like to return to Disneyland some day.
I’m confused on this education thing? Is it part of training, college discounts or some secret 3rd thing?
Annual training credits required to maintain her license. A professional organization would arrange for two years worth of credits to be earned in three days of classes at Disney World, with deluxe room discounts thrown in.
The room discount meant that you couldn’t get the Disney Dining plan. The first two times we just paid for meals out of pocket, but the last time we did that, the kids were growing and eating a lot. I had a bill the last time that had me sitting and panicking in a stall in the bathroom on the last day.
After that we would pass on the discounted rooms and just stay at a budget resort hotel and get the dining plan. It ended up being cheaper.
The dining plan doesn’t make sense for most people, but we were able to save money by using it.
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I believe this only applies to the USA portion of America and not the other 29 countries
