One of my buddies loves to wear his D.A.R.E. sweatshirt when he smokes.
Here’s how you do drugs, but PLEASE DON’T DO DRUGS. But here’s how anyway.
Like, if you’re gonna tell me not to do something, why give me instructions on how to do said thing?
They taught us that drugs were evil and done by bad people. The first time I smoked pot, I realized I was lied to and wondered what other drugs were like.
They showed us a video like
Acid makes you see sounds and taste colors, and isn’t addictive… But don’t do it!
Before the video I absolutely had no desire to try acid, and after the video all I could think was like “what does a color taste like?!?!”
now I wanna try
DARE = Drugs Are Really Excellent
Ah, yes, the
massivelymostlykind ofnot really at all successful D.A.R.E. Program.It was successful at grabbing my interest. “Drugs Are Really Expensive” would have been a far better message.
That’s because you have to try to know why you cannot do it. You can say all the words you want that you cannot do something but a teenager won’t learn unless you give it to them and demonstrate the debilitating properties.
My school of kids education is by practice and not by empty boring talking for hours. We talk about drugs? Sure here are all the samples see why exactly they are bad on your own.
Kids do not learn just because you talk to them 50th time the same thing, they learn when they touch, taste and smell.
This is why I aspire to be a future educator, because my methods are actually working as opposed to the shitty current standard that gave us flat earthers and anti vaxxers.
Earth is flat? We call Bezos and do a trip to space for 4 worst behaving kids. Vaccines are a hoax? We unleash the smallpox and showcase that these kids who vaccinated survived.
That’s the same logic people use to remove things like sex ed, discussion of lgbtq, or even racism use.
If we don’t talk about the thing then it won’t happen, or, if we talk about the thing then the kids will want to or know how to do it.
DARE was pretty stupid, though. And i’m sure I have a DARE labeled pencil or two in the bottom of a box somewhere still.
Ah yes drugs are bad. Weed kills you, etc.
You find out weed doesn’t do any of the shit they said it did… Now absolutely everything they claimed is called into question. Why would they lie about X but not about Y?
DARE did more to make people learn that police cannot be trusted apart from maybe their general violent tendencies.
I may be too european, but our one prez was about hard drugs! Half of it was about was a biology lesson about the nucleus accumbens and its deterioration! The other half was safety tips, apparently you can try every hard drug once with exemption to crystal meth without causing permanent damage! I didn’t know that until then, I would have probably never tried morphine once if not for that lesson…
Also didn’t the cia sell drugs? Maybe it really was an advertisement?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_drug_trafficking_allegations
According to Tim Weiner, the Central Intelligence Agency “has been accused of forming alliances of convenience with drug traffickers around the world in the name of anti-Communism” since its creation in 1947.
This was part of a more all-encompassing effort to leverage organized crime syndicates and other black market networks as methods of infiltrating, subverting, and ultimately dissolving Soviet Socialist Republics. Because the drug trade was such a lynchpin of the colonial-era plantation movement, you had a lot of anti-communist sympathizers already forced underground in the face of communist revolutions (which also, incidentally, tended to be anti-drug use).
Armies of Nationalist China fled into Thailand Myanmar, and Cambodia to run heroin operations and only significantly influenced the regimes in the region for decades and today.
You’re absolutely right. And if you try them yourself, unfortunately most drugs are really good, at first.
That’s the problem with drugs, no?
When you can stop you don’t want to, and when you want to stop, you can’t.
I don’t remember where I read it, but I think it summs it up perfectly.
Weed not actually being dangerous… when you find that out it’s like leaving the Matrix
That’s not true though.
People really struggle understanding anything else than “it’s horribly deadly” and “it’s harmless”.
What’s wrong with edibles?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_(drug)#Adverse_effects
Might be less bad than other drugs but it’s not this magical thing that can never do anything wrong.
And that’s without counting things like driving under the influence of it.
I mean, I would have appreciated some information about weed influencing my body and brain development before I am ~25. Then I might have waited that time or smoked less. Now I can only imagine if I might have become less of a scatterbrain. Instead I was told that all drugs are bad and they will make me addicted and push me to drug-related crimes, which did not turn out believable enough.
Are you sure you’re not a scatterbrain from undiagnosed ADHD that you’ve been self-medicating with the weed?
What I always found funny later in life was they never said anything about DMT. It was like they didn’t want us to be aware of DMT existing, even though it was discovered in the 30s, found naturally in the 40s, known hallucinogenic for hundreds or thousands of years, but only studied as a hallucinogen in the 50s.
DMT is a glorious hallucinogen that any psychonaut should pursue, it is easier to obtain than LSD and profoundly better with shorter lasting effects than LSD or mushrooms. You got an hour to spend and are willing to shatter reality? DMT can change your mind.
That program was started at around the same time that the US government flooded the country with Crack Cocaine to fund their illegal wars in Central America
If any one is wondering … you should look up the story of Gary Webb
EDIT: … and if anyone is paying attention … the story that Webb uncovered basically ruined his life because the government hounded him like a dog until he lost everything. Even then, he still kept fighting, resisting and writing about all the terrible things the government was doing.
Then at the height of all the news about all this … he died by suicide … from two gunshot wounds to the head! … and people tell me to stop believing in conspiracy theories. How the hell do you shoot yourself in the head twice to kill yourself.
A simplified retelling of this story is in the film ‘Kill the Messenger’ (2014) which stars Jeremy Renner
Important clarification:
Webb, an investigative journalist for the San Jose Mercury News, uncovered convincing evidence that proceeds from international cocaine trafficking represented a major source of funding for US-backed right-wing death squads in Nicaragua (known as the Contras) with South Central Los Angeles and other urban African American communities serving as key markets for the drug; and more distressing, that the CIA had become aware of this illicit commerce early on and incorporated it into a broader domestic strategy, allowing the cocaine pipeline to continue and thrive to a massive degree that eventually gave rise to the U.S. “crack epidemic” of the '80s and '90s and the birth of the prison-industrial sector.
Webb DID NOT break the story of America’s crack coming from the Contras with the CIA’s approval. That fact had already been available around the time it occurred. Webb’s contribution was gathering and sharing the details and more evidence. To be fair, Webb never claimed to have any evidence that the CIA engineered the whole thing, only that they knew it was going on, approved of it, and even met with Contra leaders and funders to discuss it.
Webb’s downfall as a journalist is mainly due to his making unsupported claims. If he had had evidence for all of his claims, it would not have made him vulnerable to being discredited. For example, the US Justice Department found that “the allegations contained in the original Mercury News articles were exaggerations of the actual facts,” and that “the claims that Blandón and Meneses were responsible for introducing crack cocaine into South Central Los Angeles and spreading the crack epidemic throughout the country were unsupported.” Even Nick Schou, Webb’s biographer, agreed that, “the story offered no evidence to support such sweeping conclusions, a fatal error that would ultimately destroy Webb, if not his editors.”
On December 10, 2004, Gary Webb took his own life. It is true that there were two bullet wounds in his head, which has raised suspicions that his death might not have been a suicide. However, no evidence has yet been presented contradicting the coroner’s findings, so we have to accept it as such for now.
And yes, Kill the Messenger (2014) is worth watching. It is a surprisingly accurate film starring Jeremy Renner. It portrays how Webb assembled the story and depicts the media’s tomfoolery and its impact on Webb’s life. Even Webb’s own son liked it.
On December 10, 2004, Gary Webb took his own life. It is true that there were two bullet wounds in his head, which has raised suspicions that his death might not have been a suicide. However, no evidence has yet been presented contradicting the coroner’s findings, so we have to accept it as such for now.
I fundamentally disagree with the premise of this statement and you should also.
“What we are being told happened here is completely impossible, but no one has presented anything more plausible, so we must accept this as truth and move on.”
Absolutely not. Bullshit. Fuck that. You should be ashamed of yourself for even writing that in public. You’re being lied to, right to your face, boldly and unashamedly, to rug-sweep a set of extremely illegal governmental actions without any sort of culpability - and your response to this is “Well, better not worry about that then!”
How could you possibly think that’s the correct response to that?
Bit late to do something about it now, we missed that bus, but I can draw a straight line from Ronald Reagan to Contra to this to the fascist hellhole of an American society that find ourselves in in the current day. If anyone had held their government responsible for anything it has done at any point in time, we might have shifted that path just a little.
Bullseye. Anyone swallowing the official story about Webb is naive at best. I mean what the fuck “It’s impossible so we must accept it as truth?”, again what the actual fuck? How does someone think like this?
Then prove it instead of just speculating.
The proof we do have is that Webb became extremely depressed because of all the media slander, his loss of credibility as a journalist from his peers and the general population and ultimately, the resignation from his position, inability to find a job, and loss of his mortgage and house a week prior to his death.
What we have zero proof of is why the CIA would want to kill someone that didn’t break the significant story in the first place, was already widely discredited and shunned, and EIGHT years after the news had died down.
Also, it is not impossible to have a suicide with two bullets. It happens rarely when the first shot fails to be immediately lethal. Considering the first bullet went through his left cheek, it probably didn’t kill him. It was the second shot that hit an artery.
On top of that, Webb’s own family firmly believe it was a suicide and they would appreciate it if you would treat it as such as they knew him a lot more than you did.
Yeah, I’ll get right on that, 21 years after his death. I was 9 years old at the time.
And surely, the CIA has never ever had someone killed under suspicious circumstances…
I remember when I used to think the government told the truth.
I love two things about DARE:
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Their mascot was an anthro lion.
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They did more to get kids ON drugs than they did to get them OFF drugs.
And then there’s former President George Bush, doing his part with Cartoon All-Stars to the Rescue.
Totally made drugs more appealing.
Why did Gordon give up on wearing clothes when he came to Earth?
I feel like Alf would do coke.
Catamine
I almost got killed on a police ride along. Wait, didn’t love that part.
Story please
One of the DARE cops took me on a ride along. Dangerous domestic violence situations aside (he took me to the doors), just driving down a main street. He was of course speeding, and a car jumped the median coming head on. He made an amazing fishtail maneuver, spun the car around. He pulled them over into a parking lot. We sat for a minute while we both checked our shorts. We got out (still don’t know why I was allowed out of the car). The driver tried to get out her car and fell on her face. Beyond drunk.
I’ve been in some life or death situations, but this was surely one of the closest.
So how were your shorts?
How would were you at the time?
How would were you at the time?
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And told you to go home and ask your parents about their drug experiences.
My parents only ever said “Drugs are bad and evil, stay away from drugs, they are no laughing matter. Understand? Good. Now let’s watch this Cheech and Chong movie.”
Whaaaaat? You mean to tell me that the guys whose entire existence is justified by locking up poor people for drug use, whose “justice system” is just a front for legal slavery, ran an “anti” drug campaign that maybe wasn’t super good? Almost like that was… the whole point?
Even better was the fact the fact that this same president was also once the head of the CIA … the same organization which most likely still included people he knew to work with South American drug cartels to initiate the Crack Cocaine epidemic of the 90s in order to fund their wars and conflicts in Central America.
It pisses me off so much that so few people remember this history of America … on one hand they claim the moral high ground of wanting people to stop doing drugs … when they, the actual government spy agency, were the ones who created the conditions for more drugs to be sold on the street!!!
I’ve said it a bunch of times on this thread because it’s important to me and should be important to everyone else … look up the story of Gary Webb
I was 100% the target audience for DARE lol. I remember my classmates asking me what drugs I wanted to try from the lesson and I would be so confused because the way the officer spoke of the effects made taking them seem very scary to me.
I’m now a big pothead so maybe I’m not that much of an outlier.
Just out of curiosity, what changed your mind and how old were you when that change happened?
Honestly, I think just talking to people who used cannabis or other substances that was part of the DARE program (which included alcohol and tobacco) was a major factor.
When I was 17, I meet a lot of people who used those substances regularly, and hearing their experiences with it made me realize that the effects that the program portrayed each drug having was total BS. What stuck with me was how different of a drug weed was made out to be than how it affected people in real life. The DARE program made it seem like it was meth in plant form, but all I was hearing was stories of people feeling like they are floating, enjoying movies, and eating snacks.
It peaked my curiosity and from then on I was super interested in trying it. Plus, that it was completely legal at this time too, so most of the programs deterrents for buying drugs in general became redundant.
Thank you for sharing!
