they tried something similar(not so similar) with scarlett johansan, where they tried to sneakingly use the streaming income to avoid paying her what she was owed on her contract.
I sort of find it funny and sad that some people expect another person to do the same work (or similar) for half the salary. While most of us would not do that if it wasn’t needed. Sure, he’s rich but money is money.
Would you do the same work you’re currently doing for half the salary when you know, you can get the same or better salary elsewhere? I don’t think so.
Renner went on to suggest that the proposed lower salary was a result of his near-fatal 2023
Though his take on this is… well, odd.
“This is not Marvel, mind you. This is like, just Disney, not even really Disney. It’s just the penny pinchers, the accountants. I told them to go fly a kite. I mean, just at the at the insult offer. So we didn’t see eye to eye on it,”
It’s sad that he became arrogant. He could’ve just let it at “no, I will not do it”.
I don’t know about the specific of the deal or what S2 will actually contain, but as I understand S1 set up a new Hawkeye so maybe S2 would’ve had Renner not as the main character and possibly not doing the same amount of work. If he is going to do less work it would make sense to also pay less. This of course is speculation as we don’t know actually know what S2 would’ve been about or what deal was presented to Renner. All we know is Renners side where he claims it would’ve been the same amount of work and I don’t think I need to explain how that can’t be taken as the absolute truth. The rest of what he said really makes me question if he’s being completely honest or is he skewing the story to make himself look like the good guy.
But if he is telling the truth it would be pretty fucked up to offer half the salary for the same amount of work.
Many people are ignoring another part of the formula. Actors draw views. Renner is the main interest I have in Hawkeye. Kate Bishop is a fine character, but personally Renner is why I watched season 1. Charlie Cox and Vincent D’nofrio are the reason I watched the new Daredevil series.
Renner might be blowing it out of proportion, but the reality is without his involvement I’m probably going to skip it.
I’ll give each character a chance to stand on their own but I’m not personally interested in Kate Bishop as a story driver.
I get that his name draws views but I don’t think that’s a factor going from S1 to S2. It’s not like he went from nobody to somebody. He was already popular prior to S1, he didn’t get more popular between seasons. His S1 salary probably already accounted for his popularity so it was most likely also accounted in the S2 salary. But, if he thinks he should’ve been paid more because of his name recognition then that’s him pretty much trying to do the same thing he’s blaming the accountants for, he would be trying to squeeze out every penny from his popularity.
So in your estimation, you don’t think he should be upset that Disney, one of the biggest organizations in the world, is refusing to pay him what he believes is value to be?
Kinda? He’s free to ask whatever price the believes he is worth, I don’t have an issue with that. But just like he’s free to ask whatever price he thinks is fair it’s also fair for the other side to just say “No, thanks”. No reason to be upset about it. Or do you think I should side with someone in the top 1% simply because one of the biggest corporations in the world told them no? It’s someone with “set for life” money complaining that the corporation with essentially infinite funds didn’t want to give him as much money as he demanded. I think siding with either side (based on the information we know so far) is stupid.
I mean. I’m not siding with Renner, here. I initially pointed out an observation I didn’t see anybody making.
I replied to you specifically because it seemed to me you were discounting Renners contribution to the success of the first season. I do think it’s fine for him to be publicly pissed about this, if what he’s saying is true. I don’t know either way but if he left those meetings feeling that way, there may be a reason and there’s no reason to assume he’s just a rich guy being a rich asshole.
If i made millions doing very little work in a job that simmers down slowly, because all i peoduce is slob that no one cares for. Yes, i might take a paycut.
Oh no… rich person gets offered to be paid millions instead of being paid millions…
On the other hand there’s its always good to fight for an artist when the opponent is Disney.
I never understand this mindset. It reminds me of people who complain about NFL players all while the owners rake in billions. Like why y’all mad at the labor? Be mad at the owner.
I can dislike both.
You only dislike the labor because they make a lot of money. But in practice they are in a similar situation to yourself or any other worker. (unless you don’t work, then forgive me)
I don’t think you will appreciate it if your employer suddenly decided to pay you half your wage out of the blue. And any kind of reduction of workload offered is usually a false promise… would you keep quiet?
I understand your point, milk the corpos for all you can. But they aren’t exactly philanthropists anyway, they take their private jets, hoard their wealth etc.
Renner even had an app to take more money off fans, so fuck him. I can judge each one individually. Some are just blinded by the fame and fortune, so they are not much better than the shareholders anyway.
Because it’s not about money, it’s about respect.
Respect has a price huh? Also there are no details why he got paid more. Does he olny appear half the time? Is he just a cameo? No surley he’s just a poor multi millionaire with his own social media app
When was the last time your employer told you in your interview that your job was going to be X and Y responsibility only, and it was actually true throughout the job? it’s difficult to trust your boss not to overload you after cutting your pay.
Maybe they’re speculating only half the people will watch it, based on previous trends. I sure didn’t watch the first one.
We are all half a Jeremy on this blessed day.
Speak for yourself.
I am all half a Jeremy on this blessed day
Good for him, and he’s just asking for his original salary. Pay this man!👏👏👏 Isn’t Hawkeye supposed to be one of the better Marvel Disney+ shows anyway? Watch them come crawling back
Lmaooo, no. It’s probably the most forgettable one.
Trust Disney to kick him while he’s down
I never knew about this. What a weird, fucked up thing to do.
I was never a fan of his, but when I saw this I decided he’s just not a good person. What a gross thing to do to people who support you. I hope to not have to see him in anything going forward.
Idk man.
I went to the Wiki article, and it’s formatted in a way that basically implies he did the app himself.
Renner explained the shutdown in a goodbye post. “Due to clever individuals that were able to manipulate ways to impersonate me and others within the app, I have asked ESCAPEX, the company that runs this app, to shut it down immediately and refund anyone who has purchased any stars over the last 90 days,” he wrote. Stars are the app’s version of currency. “What was supposed to be a place for fans to connect with each other has turned into a place that is everything I detest and can’t or won’t condone.”
So it’s some company called ESCAPEX. I could put money, but not a lot of it, on them having sold Renner the concept instead of the other way around. Artists always have tons of passive income from things like that, and it seems like it ran pretty smoothly for a few years, until the trolls, and when he found out, he shut it down.
Idk maybe it was his idea and he only shut it down when it became completely uncontrollable idk.
But I don’t know, and definitely haven’t seen enough evidence to say he’s a bad person.
Edit yeah
One of the main controversies of Renner’s app was its marketing. The app’s developers, Escapex, specialized in and grew famous for making similar monetized apps for celebrities.[13][8] The marketing campaign was based on direct contact with Renner, whose chances were increased with regular payments for “stars”,[17] although very few encounters seemed to happen with Renner himself.[18] The multiple problems with the app led the CEO of Escapex, Sephi Shapira, to call the app a “freak situation”, and added “Am I concerned about this? Not more than I’m concerned about 50 other things I’m dealing with as a startup company.”[17] Along with the marketing failures, the app was seen as misrepresenting itself as seemingly erotic with some advertisements featuring Renner suggestively staring at the camera, despite the actual app being initially considered safe for children.[14]
I think is more a case of Renner being taken advantage of by some asshole company than him straight up being an asshole
It’s basically an onlyfans/patreon that he didn’t have to give someone else a cut of…
If people want to give you money, let them…
what kind of logic is that? the guy’s rich and successful, he doesn’t need to take money from people who suck at managing their impulses.
And how do you think rich people get rich
how’s that relevant? he’s already rich, he doesn’t need more money
Google and apple certainly take a cut. Bigger than patreon and onlyfans btw.
His ‘joke’ about a ‘fictional character’ being a slut tells me all I need to know about him. He is insufferable and everything I have seen him in was made worse by his presence.
I don’t know the guy, but I thought his acting was top-notch. I’m sorry you know him so well.
Which character, etc?
