• ☂️-@lemmy.ml
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    soooo, honest opinions of discord users here: hows matrix nowadays? what are the other options?

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      It really depends on how you use Discord. Matrix was never trying to be a Discord alternative so for some usecases it’s fine, but for a place to hang out with your friends and play video games it’s not.

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      Element x is pretty solid but not perfect, matrix-rust-sdk needs to have desktop clients, servers need to support all the new stuff, I give element 5 years before it’s a top tier messenger

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    Please give me a federated, self-hosted Discord alternative! I’m tired of these bullshit platforms.

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      Not federated, but Revolt can be self-hosted and is very similar to Discord in the look and feel from what I have seen (I have it installed, but haven’t tried getting friends to install it and am not hosting). So it could be worth looking into for folks that are used to Discord.

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    facebook does the same thing, except also requires a photo ID too. it seems alot right wingers have migrated to these 2 platforms so they can control narratives better, better off staying away from these platforms.

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    Controversially, I cheer on the quickening of the inshitification of Discord. The sooner more folks are convinced to move away from that place, the better. I hope for a return to indexable and searchable old school forums (or their modern equivalents—Discourse is so nice).

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      Problem is folks won’t move, they’re too entrenched. Look at twitter, it’s still going ok despite having been a cesspit for years now. Or reddit, where some moved, but they moved to yet another enshittified platform: Discord. The amount of crap people ( especially the ones on discord ) will put up with is immense before they even consider switching.

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      Discord was shit from the beginning. Enshitification is useless here.

      Sadly parts of my social group are currently migrating to discord.

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        Anything is possible. But I’m also a grump who doesn’t like the fast pace of chat anyway, so I’m personally more interested in the forums approach.

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    The moment this becomes an obligation for each person, no matter what, I’ll just quit Discord. I’m tired of stuff like this.

    If people want to do bad stuff, they will find a way no matter what anyway.

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      there’s already real time AI aging filters, once they realise this doesn’t work it’s going to be IDs next, i’m so sick of this bullshit

      if a kid wants to find porn, they’re going to find porn, no amount of laws is going to stop them, but the more laws there are the more safe websites and online spaces to explore the new feelings will be inaccessible to them, leaving only the worst possible resources to be exposed to as they discover their sexuality. people writing those laws behave as if they’ve entirely forgotten how it was to be a teen, nor have met a teen in decades

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        I mean at least in the US the median congressional age is 64.7 so yeah gramps doesn’t remember being that age much less having internet access. Doesn’t consider that you can’t find porn mags in the woods anymore.

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          people downvoting you need some more context i believe

          conservative leadership’s bigotry isn’t just all yelling about gay frogs, there’s subtlety to some of their tactics. Two things are happening at once here - banning of sexual things, harsher punishments for sexual offenders, broadening the definition of what sexual offences even are, and sexualisation of LGBTQ folks, fearmongering, “think of the children”, implications that transgender people are all perverts (why else would bathrooms or drag queens story times be such big issues?). queer people are being pushed back into the margins, just their mere existence is being pushed to be viewed as “erotic” and “inappropriate for children”

          though obviously LGBTQ people are not porn, i hope that goes without saying, the same people who want to ban porn are the ones working very hard to paint queer people as somehow innately “adult only”

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            Out of curiosity, why go out of your way to not capitalize correctly? Like ‘I’ has to be easiest in any autocorrect.

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              i don’t have autocorrect on, i also don’t subscribe to the idea that there is a “correct” way to speak or write, languages are tools used for communication, if you can understand me without effort then i used the tool successfully

              i do capitalise things when it matters, for various reasons; to make a sentence easier to read, to show respect, to avoid a word being confused for a typo. but overall i just like the look of small letters better

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      For a brief moment, I had a a FB/Instagram account for testing purposes. After about a week, Meta started asking to see my face on camera. Needless to say, that experiment hit a brick wall.

      I was just following and liking stuff here and there. Didn’t even post anything, but apparently that was suspicious enough for Meta.

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      Same, I still use it at around 15% of my own peak usage, if this gets beyond the testing phase, i’m out as well. Never trusted discords ownership and bussinessmodel, and observing their behaviour the last 4-5 years really cemented that as accurate. Bye, I won’t miss y’all.

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        I’ve never quit using teamspeak but I’d never see it as an alternative for the chatting functions of discord (neither private or server wide). Calling and screensharing on it is superior for sure, chatting is garbage.

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          Embedded matrix client and Teamspeak client in a webpage? Selfhost it.

          I’m sure it can’t be that hard. I’m planning on rolling out something similar, if it works I’ll like the source code here.

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            I’m not a technical person, can’t be bothered for that. In the end for tools like this its important non-tech people can also use it

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              This is something that I feel like should be at the top of every single tech related community. Not everyone is a techie and they shouldn’t have to be to exiat in the modern world.

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                We really need more people working on tech that both has great privacy but also simplicity. Currently you always have to pick between convenience or privacy. Everybody that keeps pushing self hosting doesn’t get that not everybody has the skills or time to set that up.

                I work in IT, I do QA, I write test automation code, I setup CI/CD pipelines but the moment you put me on networking stuff I’m done, gg well played. It’s a whole new skillset so if I as someone who grew up and work in a technical job has a hard time with it don’t even think its going mainstream.

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    Need alternatives to have built-in, easy to use screenshare with audio. And of course great noise filtering on voice chats.

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    Reminder that we have a european alternative called Revolt we can always switch to!

    Another alternative is Element for chatting and Teamspeak for Calls/Screenshare!

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      Element really needs to get push to talk. It’s an incredibly basic feature to be missing, and for me personally and I’m sure others the lack of it is a deal breaker.

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      Element/Matrix does calls and screen share also by the way!

      (Teamspeak can do screen share? That’s news to me!)

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        I just checked and indeed it does! Didn’t know that before, although I do think Revolt is more user friendly to non-tech people so will probably be a better choice for people to migrate to.

        Teamspeak 6 released a month or so ago and has Peer2Peer screenshare, it works great!

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          I read that Revolt doesn’t have screen-sharing, which is a deal-breaker for my group. I wonder how well Matrix’s is…

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        Element does it natively? As in, it’s a feature of Element and not some integration with a different tool? I didn’t even expect calls to be a part of the matrix protocol yet.

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          in the past they were using a jitsy integration, they are in the process of migrating to their in-house element call

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          I haven’t tried it yet but opening Element in browser it does have a call option