The criticism isn’t so much for AI itself, but for the mediocrity it enables.
Remember in elementary school when you were learning basic addition and subtraction? And that your teacher wouldn’t let you use a calculator even though it was capable of getting the job done (and without hallucinating bullshit numbers!)?
You teacher wasn’t ‘anti calculator’, they just recognized that tool as being harmful to their goal of training you to actually think.
AI is a tool. There are some things hammers do a really good job of, but in today’s world they’re used in everything. Want to apply paint to your car? Hammer. Do the dishes? Hammer. Brush your teeth? Hammer. It’s stupid, and not at all helpful. So now we’ve got a counter-culture growing of “fuck hammers!” in response to that stupid, but hammers aren’t really the problem… the problem is the stupid. Fuck hammers.
Remember in elementary school when you were learning basic addition and subtraction? And that your teacher wouldn’t let you use a calculator even though it was capable of getting the job done (and without hallucinating bullshit numbers!)?
the same teachers that told you that you wouldnt always have a calculator on hand? at the time, it was solid advice but technology is changing faster than ever.
AI is a tool. There are some things hammers do a really good job of, but I’m today’s world they’re used in everything. Want to apply paint to your car? Hammer. Do the dishes? Hammer. Brush your teeth? Hammer. It’s stupid, and not at all helpful. So now we’ve got a counter-culture growing of “fuck hammers!” in response to that stupid, but hammers aren’t really the problem… the problem is the stupid. Fuck hammers.
if you compare AI to a hammer then youre just showing how little knowledge you have on it.
AI can already code among the top human coders. AI can read medical images like x-rays/MRIs with MUCH higher speed and accuracy than humans. AI is being used in conjunction with prosthetic limbs to restore movement to people. AI is streamlining material sciences. AI is enabling indie game developers to make a AAA quality game by themselves in a fraction of the time it used to take a team of people do it. its easy to get hung up on the art aspect of AI but compared to all the amazing things its going to do for us in the coming years it feels like an unhealthy dose of copium fighting the inevitable.
because LLMs are great at pattern recognition. people have been pumping out formulaic low effort art for so long that it was easy for an AI to mimic it. good art is not common, but bad art is. so you can imagine which one has significantly more training data.
yea but all modern image generators work in conjunction with LLMs. this is why most of them will transform your prompt into something else. theyre all trained on data in order to recognize patterns. but i appreciate the “akshually” with absolutely no useful information added.
CLIP isn’t an llm either. point being, the pattern recognition argument doesn’t hold. they’re feature detectors, which is basically a giant grid of classifiers. that’s not what llms do.
I guess we’re both on a similiar page. i thought you were joking at first when you completely missed what i was saying but then i re-worded it only for you to abstractly strawman it in the most insecure redditor-like way. turns out your reading comprehension gets dangerously close to 0 when someone mentions this specific topic. im sorry you gotta do presumably physical labor for a living but nobody was ever gonna buy your waifu art.
99% of artists never get paid. in my opinion, its cringe to blame AI for mediocrity.
The criticism isn’t so much for AI itself, but for the mediocrity it enables.
Remember in elementary school when you were learning basic addition and subtraction? And that your teacher wouldn’t let you use a calculator even though it was capable of getting the job done (and without hallucinating bullshit numbers!)?
You teacher wasn’t ‘anti calculator’, they just recognized that tool as being harmful to their goal of training you to actually think.
AI is a tool. There are some things hammers do a really good job of, but in today’s world they’re used in everything. Want to apply paint to your car? Hammer. Do the dishes? Hammer. Brush your teeth? Hammer. It’s stupid, and not at all helpful. So now we’ve got a counter-culture growing of “fuck hammers!” in response to that stupid, but hammers aren’t really the problem… the problem is the stupid. Fuck hammers.
the same teachers that told you that you wouldnt always have a calculator on hand? at the time, it was solid advice but technology is changing faster than ever.
if you compare AI to a hammer then youre just showing how little knowledge you have on it. AI can already code among the top human coders. AI can read medical images like x-rays/MRIs with MUCH higher speed and accuracy than humans. AI is being used in conjunction with prosthetic limbs to restore movement to people. AI is streamlining material sciences. AI is enabling indie game developers to make a AAA quality game by themselves in a fraction of the time it used to take a team of people do it. its easy to get hung up on the art aspect of AI but compared to all the amazing things its going to do for us in the coming years it feels like an unhealthy dose of copium fighting the inevitable.
Speaking of hammers…
Yeah I’m not going to converse with willful ignorance or arguing in bad faith. Go bother some other website.
If you take away artists, everyone pack up, because humanity is lost.
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Then why did AI suck it all up and use their work?
because LLMs are great at pattern recognition. people have been pumping out formulaic low effort art for so long that it was easy for an AI to mimic it. good art is not common, but bad art is. so you can imagine which one has significantly more training data.
image generators are not llms.
yea but all modern image generators work in conjunction with LLMs. this is why most of them will transform your prompt into something else. theyre all trained on data in order to recognize patterns. but i appreciate the “akshually” with absolutely no useful information added.
CLIP isn’t an llm either. point being, the pattern recognition argument doesn’t hold. they’re feature detectors, which is basically a giant grid of classifiers. that’s not what llms do.
again with the ‘akshuallys’ its wild that you are flexing your IQ on the topic but youre taking the side of the luddites. unreal, bro.
So you’re saying that AI is built on bad art? Interesting take
no im saying its built on all art, and most art is bad.
So you only think people should make food that you like or it’s bad food. Got it.
you seem like a failed artist to have that much salt…
so let me try again.
what i think of the art is irrelevant, im explaining how it produces results.
if most art was good, there would be a lot more museums.
i think most people would agree good art is exceptional - which means its above average. which means that the majority of art is mediocre at best.
again, my opinion of any particular art does not matter in this explanation so please hold back on the LDE in your reply.
I got the best laugh out of this. Thank you, you made my day. Especially, this part:
Edit: I can’t decide if I want to upvote you or downvote you, I think you actually believe what you’re saying.
I guess we’re both on a similiar page. i thought you were joking at first when you completely missed what i was saying but then i re-worded it only for you to abstractly strawman it in the most insecure redditor-like way. turns out your reading comprehension gets dangerously close to 0 when someone mentions this specific topic. im sorry you gotta do presumably physical labor for a living but nobody was ever gonna buy your waifu art.
Citation needed.