drthunder

I was in a community online ~10 years ago with someone who was trans and claimed to be Lebanese and voted for Trump. I asked her why and she said she hated Muslims. I pointed out that Mike Pence was famously homophobic in a homophobic party, and she straight-up told me she hated Muslims more than she wanted rights. I was astounded by that but what you say lines up, I guess. I wonder if she still feels that way.

I don’t even know how his name is properly spelled anymore

I got hit on a couple times in Starcraft 2 of all games just because I had a feminine-sounding username. I literally got “damn girl, look at that MMR” once and it’s so funny.

Everyone who can get pregnant has lost the ability to have safe care if they’re in a state with an abortion ban. Someone close to me was sentenced to death by the Supreme Court for the crime of having an ectopic pregnancy and only survived because she saved herself when doctors wouldn’t out of fear of being retaliated against.

That’s useful AI that doesn’t take billions of dollars to train, though. (it’s also a great idea and I’d be down for it)

I feel similarly. Javascript was made to add some functionality to documents and now we’re basically running Doom in a word professor. I don’t know what a better system would look like, but I’d draw a line between document-type pages and pages that you want to do more on.

Midwest US reporting in!

Open source software isn’t the same as generative AI at all, but I wouldn’t be surprised if people who put stuff on GitHub pre-ChatGPT don’t want their code scraped for Microsoft to profit off of. I took my personal projects off of GitHub a year or two ago for that reason. Aside from that, open source code is put out there with the intention of being used freely and a lot of art isn’t. Art floating around the internet pre-2022 was made either with the intention of not getting paid for it, in which case whatever, or the artist wanted to get paid and was presumably paid but their art ended up on the internet anyway (but they still got paid at least).

My main issues with generative AI models are that most if not all of them were created without the artists’ or developers’ permission, the profits are going entirely to oligarchs, and training the models takes an obscene amount of energy that contributes to global warming. These models devalue actual art even further and have made the internet a worse place by making it easier to make spam and disinformation. It’s too late to fix spam and disinformation, but we can still value art. I think indie game devs would be singing a different tune if Steam was flooded with games made entirely with AI slop.

edit: For what it’s worth, I paid for my copy of Reaper and the drum plugin I use. I also paid for all my guitar gear.

I admit that it’s not the best comparison because games often take more time to make than music or visual art. But I think the results are similar if you take a game with programmer art (which does have its charms!) or no art vs one that hired an artist for some amount of time, compared to a soundtrack or set of art with a game the artist put together vs hiring a dev to put together a demo in the same amount of time.

What this really comes down to for me is that most if not all of these models were created without the artists’ permission and training the models takes an obscene amount of energy that contributes to global warming. These models devalue actual art even further and have made the internet a worse place by making it easier to make spam and disinformation. It’s too late to fix spam and disinformation, but we can still value art. I think game devs would be singing a different tune if Steam was flooded with games made entirely with AI slop.

Writing good music is really freakin’ hard, but I do it on my own anyway because the whole point of making something creative is that a person is doing it. It’s truly a shame to see people rally for software made by tech bros that takes work away from real artists who could use it.

editing to be less snarky: How would you feel if generative AI could make a game and an artist or musician had it make an entire game for their art/music because it saved them money?

I also use it on an LG TV and sometimes it can’t run at its normal framerate with subtitles on. I haven’t figured out why yet, but it might be embedded files like someone else says in this thread. Other than that it works like a charm.

It’s not the early internet, but a lot of websites in the 00s (when I started using it) let you customize your profile. We all had horrible CSS and an autoplay song that only we liked on our Myspace profiles and it was great. Flash was both a buggy mess that could introduce viruses to your computer and an amazing outlet for creativity that I don’t think has been replaced. It was a lot less centralized and you were only being tracked across the whole internet by the NSA and not every internet company too.

Edit: I should say that I lose a bit of nostalgia every time I see forum posts from that era though, the casual bigotry was everywhere and so obnoxious

Exactly. Voting has never been enough, but it’s also the absolute bare minimum. How am I supposed to trust people to have my back who couldn’t take an hour out of their day to check some boxes?

This is just where we’ve been heading since rich assholes took control of everything. Nothing has value beyond the money it makes. Everything will be reused and defiled until it stops making money. Everything will be rented to us

Harm reduction would have saved trans people like me from being erased by the government.

I have a laptop that I dual boot on, I’ll have to try a few games on it. The biggest thing for me is if MusicBee will work, because I’ve been using it for almost ten years and want to keep using it.

MS can pry Windows 10 out of my cold, dead hands. I’ll switch to Linux before Win11 and I don’t particularly want to do that either.

I didn’t realize Weird Al’s line about “me too’ing like some brain-dead AOL’er” was referencing Eternal September, he would make that reference.

No, but pretty much everyone with a shred of power here is either fascist or too chickenshit to stand up to them.

I wonder what the mildest thing a true AI could tell the oligarchs to do that would make them shut it down. Giving 10% of their wealth away and not in a tax dodge way? Stop funding fascists?