It’s not required. You have birthright from being born. This question was settled in 1898:

UNITED STATES v. WONG KIM ARK

A child born in the United States, … becomes at the time of his birth a citizen of the United States, by virtue of the first clause of the Fourteenth Amendment of the Constitution, “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”

That 14th amendment is unqualified. The paper is a bureaucratic expediency.

I invite you to try to find case law that reaches the opposite conclusion.

cool great, but those are voluntary processes and the birthright is a right by birth (5head), not by paperwork.

You dodged the actual point tho. people are owed due process and the presumption of innocence and snap jusgements are instead being made on the color of people’s skin. And again, that football player they sent to el salvador had a fucking greencard, he was a legal resident.

this isnt nazi germany pal, you dont just go up to people and demand their papers and then send them to a fucking camp whether they have them or not.

yeah that’s on me I only searched “pedo”

idk im at like 7 months an the only time i was able to ctrl f “pedo” in your history was when you were talking about trump (which, fair) and then again about 4chan pedophiles (which, again).

And while I’m at it, suppose someone is born in the US but not in a hospital. They’d have the claim but not the papers to show. Fuck 'em?

We doin law by statistical probability? What are the odds their kid flushed their papers down the toilet that morning. They just SOL?

There’s a process for determining citizenship and “that tattooed guy with brown skin looks illegal. Send him to the torture slave camp” aint it champ. He even had his papers. Try again.

buddy, theres a whole range of ages between 0 and 16, and i use that number 0 advisedly.

Unless you’re Israel. Then you can touch whatever boat you feel like.

I’d like to see a primary source over this, but this opinion gives me something to think about.

I am not a shitty person…

You don’t get to decide or declare your own reputation.

Zionism is an ostensibly secular movement. Secularity is not atheism. Pretext is not motivation.

Not only is this ad hominem (calling a person “too stupid to look up the moderators” is not relevant to whether the research they did is valuable, the two are independent and you’re addressing (incorrectly perceived) personal characteristics rather than flaws in an argument) but also, friend, you’re telling on yourself. Spam is a legitimate concern in this and every online community. Nicole is a known spambot. You spammed your own community as a moderator. Apparently as a joke that most people seem to have gotten. Your response is basically [I’m the mod here, I can do whatever the fuck I want]. And no, you can’t. Contrary to what you might think, this isn’t your community. You are just currently (actually, looking at the mod list for this community that seems to be formerly) one of the people responsible for facilitating the dialogue this community is, in principle at least, trying to foster.

A joke is one thing, but coming out of the gate hot like this calling people “stupid insipid cows” because they reported nicole spam is… unempathetic and tends to suggest a power trip. In other words, “Be nice :)” applies to you, too.

if so facto, …

Ipso Facto

If the rules are “You gotta pay for the book” and they don’t pay for the book, they broke the rules, that’s what I consider cheating. I don’t necessarily agree with the rule, I disagree with cheating. This is, of course, relative, as truth and morality in general are.

“How are we supposed to win the race if we can’t cheat?!”

They said this about the rise of fission, electricity, steam power, computers. The extra production was either captured by capitalists, or simply didnt materialze. What’s different this time?

No, if you want to see that era of global prosperity, you need to address a lot of deep, fundamental issues that humanity has trouble even acknowledging let alone actually acting toward fixing. edit: Though, stopping fascism would be a necessary first step.

I don’t think what you describe is meaningful action either.

Do I understand that you agree the proposed “blackout” is symbolic, and that you wish there were something more meaningful being proposed; or are you defending the blackout as meaningful itself? Do you agree with the criticism of the blackout’s being symbolic, but want to go along with it despite its lack of meaning (or perhaps better stated, lack of effect)?

For my part, I’d be much more pleased with the idea of the blackout if I could be convinced that it would have useful results, and would generally be in favor of so-called “meaningful action.” This blackout wouldn’t effect me either way since I’ve already given up amazon and google stuff almost entirely except what I need for work. I just need to know what the meaningful next step would be.

It sounds like a call to avoid symbolic action and take meaningful action instead, to me.