I watch people like Ben Shapiro all the time because I don’t want to exclusively live in my echo chamber and it’s good to challenge your beliefs and staying up to date with all sides.
I prefer the more moderate conservatives but it’s good to watch everything.
Something i am concerned about here on Lemmy is the instant downvoting without discussion of dissenting opinions. Hardly conducive to bringing about a revolution if we won’t even engage with certain people.
Seems like a massive circle jerk at times where we can all feel superior because we have empathy. But i want actual change and not just to seem like I’m progressive.
I get what you’re saying but people like Ben Shapiro, Candice Owens, etc have proven themselves to be shitstain propagandists many years ago. Regularly consuming propaganda, even if you know what it is, is not healthy and it does affect you.
valid but I think the specific brand that Joe Rogan and Ben Shapiro have is obviously part of Republican media out reach that is becoming increasingly divorced from reality
I recommend an intermediary like Rm Brown on youtube. Watching him let’s me keep tabs on the latest stupid going ons without needing to steep myself in it.
I don’t rightly expect whether I watch propaganda to change the opinions of those that believe it. Just because “they” won’t consume content I know to be good, that means I should consume content I know to be bad to balance it out?
The other side says things like “I’d still vote for him even if he shot my dog.” There is no rationality there; there is no benefit to listening to cultists.
The “other side” can’t be helped with mere words because they’ve been conditioned to ignore reality (or they’ve picked their position on feelings and don’t want to change). Libs watching Benny shaps lie and support genocide isn’t going to change the maga electorate.
As soon as you find a conservative who doesn’t lie, let me know and I’ll check out some of their content, but I don’t think there’s literally a single honest gop supporter these days.
Can we get a tldw, please?
Im not watching ten seconds of that guy.
i think it would be easier to find a volunteer to unclog my toilet
Give me the spoon!
Use the poop knife.
I watch people like Ben Shapiro all the time because I don’t want to exclusively live in my echo chamber and it’s good to challenge your beliefs and staying up to date with all sides.
I prefer the more moderate conservatives but it’s good to watch everything.
Something i am concerned about here on Lemmy is the instant downvoting without discussion of dissenting opinions. Hardly conducive to bringing about a revolution if we won’t even engage with certain people.
Seems like a massive circle jerk at times where we can all feel superior because we have empathy. But i want actual change and not just to seem like I’m progressive.
I get what you’re saying but people like Ben Shapiro, Candice Owens, etc have proven themselves to be shitstain propagandists many years ago. Regularly consuming propaganda, even if you know what it is, is not healthy and it does affect you.
I don’t think Ben Shapiro is a good source for that. His arguments are very poorly thought out with only the thinnest veneer of coherence on top.
I agree it’s good to subject yourself to other viewpoints but I’m definitely not going to subject myself to actual propaganda
All news is propaganda, every side has an agenda it’s just some align more with our morals.
I for one need to know what the lunatics are being told by the grifters so I can formulate arguments against their outlandish claims.
Just my thoughts on it and I am a nobody really.
valid but I think the specific brand that Joe Rogan and Ben Shapiro have is obviously part of Republican media out reach that is becoming increasingly divorced from reality
I recommend an intermediary like Rm Brown on youtube. Watching him let’s me keep tabs on the latest stupid going ons without needing to steep myself in it.
That’s like saying, “Yeah like to drink Clorox because i like to know what the poison tastes like.”
I understand it though. I used to be like that. Now I’m too old to waste my time on them.
So what’s the goal if you don’t want to bring more people to your side of things? Nothing will change.
As Hannah Ardent opined, she was there to observe and document, changing peoples mind wasn’t her objective.
Who said i have any goals?
Good point.
So self righteous circle jerk would be accurate?
I don’t mean this to be antagonistic, just really curious as to the point.
When you talk to your friends about things you share in common, are you self righteously circle jerking?
No.
That’s a very weak comparison dude.
One is passing time with friends the other is changing the direction the world is moving in.
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So what did he say in the video?
This particular one is still on my watch list. The last thing I saw of him was him calling out Matt Walsh.
So you came here to defend videos like this, without actually watching this video? Seems irresponsible.
I get your point of view, but I ain’t got time to listen to these chuds.
Do you see how if the other side has this same mentality then nothing really changes?
You sound like you think each of us is quantum entangled with someone on another side.
I don’t rightly expect whether I watch propaganda to change the opinions of those that believe it. Just because “they” won’t consume content I know to be good, that means I should consume content I know to be bad to balance it out?
The other side says things like “I’d still vote for him even if he shot my dog.” There is no rationality there; there is no benefit to listening to cultists.
The “other side” can’t be helped with mere words because they’ve been conditioned to ignore reality (or they’ve picked their position on feelings and don’t want to change). Libs watching Benny shaps lie and support genocide isn’t going to change the maga electorate.
As soon as you find a conservative who doesn’t lie, let me know and I’ll check out some of their content, but I don’t think there’s literally a single honest gop supporter these days.
https://lemmy.world/comment/16952840
Much appreciated, thank you
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