You’re definition of a few needs updating. And its an L take to defend the irresponsible. Again I cancoundt the responsible ones I know with one hand. I am being reasonable in my judgements here.
Again, more kids die from drownings in pools than accidentally shooting themselves. And its a order of magnitude more yearly.
Filtering through data from 2009 to 2018 across 33 states, the team counted 279 cases in which kids under 15 accidentally died due to firearm injury.
In a 10 year period 279 and that’s between ages 1 and 14.
Pool drownings, on average every year…358 children drowned…
Parents and caregivers can follow essential water safety guidelines to keep young ones safer in and around water. From 2019 to 2021, an average of 358 children fatally drowned in pools or spas and 6,500 visit the ER annually each year.
Everyone I know that says “I need my guns at easy access” is a libertarian trying to justify leaving their loaded guns lying around anywhere.
Everyone I know who doesn’t understand statistics makes wild shit up to support their nanny state bullshit.
Your position is incredibly ridiculous. One thing is self defense. Another isjustify mediocrity. Please take some self inventory about what you’re saying.
Says the person who is wanting to put in place draconian laws that will do way more harm than good.
Why don’t you stick to fixing the pool problem first if protecting the children is the ultimate goal. After all 358 die annually to drowning in pools vs around 27 a year to firearms…or is that because firearms don’t have a purpose and need to be curtailed?
See you are being disingenuous and bad faith here. As if kids are the only drowning.
Says the person who is wanting to put in place draconian laws that will do way more harm than good.
Quote them pls.
Do road ragers who brandish guns deserve them too? You are defending them as well. I’ve been threaten with fire arms over parking spaces. You really trying to tell me irresponsible gun owners are a minor inconvenient?
Everyone I know who doesn’t understand statistics makes wild shit up to support their nanny state bullshit.
Crazy. The way I see it you are the one not understanding stats in their broader context to justify mediocrity and bad behavior. And in the above thread I’ve pointed out why I think you are a bad faith libertarian.
Also from your own link:
Experts recommend some key things families can do to avoid the risk of an accidental shooting.
Keeping firearms locked and in secure locations, out of the reach of kids, is a critical step that researchers agree could help stop young children from harming themselves or others. Simply hiding firearms rather than locking them, Michaels said, can be like hiding holiday gifts: Naturally curious kids end up finding them.
Which is what I’ve been saying. I rest my case. Please be mature about the issues.
See you are being disingenuous and bad faith here. As if kids are the only drowning.
How so? A dead kid is a dead kid. Why are you wanting to put laws in place for something that rarely happens?
Quote them pls.
You literally have multiple comments about safe storage. If you’re suggesting that there should be laws in place to force people to put their firearms in a locked safe then that’s a stupid draconian law because it cannot be enforced without the police having the ability to randomly come into your home and check…it also requires a registry.
If you’re not suggesting that, then this discussion is pointless.
Do road ragers who brandish guns deserve them too? You are defending them as well. I’ve been threaten with fire arms over parking spaces. You really trying to tell me irresponsible gun owners are a minor inconvenient?
Deserve what? Brandishing a firearm is illegal. What else do you want it to be?
Crazy. The way I see it you are the one not understanding stats in their broader context to justify mediocrity and bad behavior. And in the above thread I’ve pointed out why I think you are a bad faith libertarian.
300+ a year in pools vs 25+ a year with firearm accidents…is it the kids dying or guns that bother you?
Also from your own link:
Experts recommend some key things families can do to avoid the risk of an accidental shooting.
Keeping firearms locked and in secure locations, out of the reach of kids, is a critical step that researchers agree could help stop young children from harming themselves or others. Simply hiding firearms rather than locking them, Michaels said, can be like hiding holiday gifts: Naturally curious kids end up finding them.
Yes common sense things…you can also teach your child about proper gun safety as well…
Which is what I’ve been saying. I rest my case. Please be mature about the issues.
I have been. I’m trying to figure out why you seem to think I’m some libertarian… I’m assuming it’s because I’m very pro2a.
You literally have multiple comments about safe storage. If you’re suggesting that there should be laws in place to force people to put their firearms in a locked safe then that’s a stupid draconian law because it cannot be enforced without the police having the ability to randomly come into your home and check…it also requires a registry.
I did not. I am simple saying that people that cannot be responsible with their guns should not have them. Your insistence on defending those who are irresponsible make me feel you should be disarmed as well perhaps.
you seem to think I’m some libertarian.
Yeah, your shit takes justifying others shitty behavior.
Deserve what? Brandishing a firearm is illegal. What else do you want it to be?
Interesting you don’t denouce that behavior.
I see all kinds of bad gun ownership and fuckwads like you defending it is appaling. People leave their guns in plain view in cars in public parking lots, forget them out in a yard, or drunk and shooting them.
Gun problems also go beyond kids being harmed, so you simply pulling those stats and ignoring the rest is very disingenuous of you.
Why did i say you are a troll.
Seriously tho, read the start of the thread again. I took a reasonable position on the matter. Its you and that other person that went out of their way to be unreasonable and defend irresponsible gun owners. And you are the one who made it about kids to begin with. Then half way you try some “not every house has kids BS” backing out of your original point.
I simply said that leaving guns around for a just in case is not very responsible.
So yeah, I am calling you a disingenuous person. And one that is emotionally unready for this conversation, so I will be stopping here.
Again, more kids die from drownings in pools than accidentally shooting themselves. And its a order of magnitude more yearly.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/26/health/children-accidental-shootings/index.html
In a 10 year period 279 and that’s between ages 1 and 14.
Pool drownings, on average every year…358 children drowned…
https://www.poolsafely.gov/2024/07/11/new-data-shows-child-drownings-remain-high/#%3A~%3Atext=Parents+and+caregivers+can+follow%2Cthe+ER+annually+each+year.
Everyone I know who doesn’t understand statistics makes wild shit up to support their nanny state bullshit.
Says the person who is wanting to put in place draconian laws that will do way more harm than good.
Why don’t you stick to fixing the pool problem first if protecting the children is the ultimate goal. After all 358 die annually to drowning in pools vs around 27 a year to firearms…or is that because firearms don’t have a purpose and need to be curtailed?
See you are being disingenuous and bad faith here. As if kids are the only drowning.
Quote them pls.
Do road ragers who brandish guns deserve them too? You are defending them as well. I’ve been threaten with fire arms over parking spaces. You really trying to tell me irresponsible gun owners are a minor inconvenient?
Crazy. The way I see it you are the one not understanding stats in their broader context to justify mediocrity and bad behavior. And in the above thread I’ve pointed out why I think you are a bad faith libertarian.
Also from your own link:
Which is what I’ve been saying. I rest my case. Please be mature about the issues.
How so? A dead kid is a dead kid. Why are you wanting to put laws in place for something that rarely happens?
You literally have multiple comments about safe storage. If you’re suggesting that there should be laws in place to force people to put their firearms in a locked safe then that’s a stupid draconian law because it cannot be enforced without the police having the ability to randomly come into your home and check…it also requires a registry.
If you’re not suggesting that, then this discussion is pointless.
Deserve what? Brandishing a firearm is illegal. What else do you want it to be?
300+ a year in pools vs 25+ a year with firearm accidents…is it the kids dying or guns that bother you?
Also from your own link:
Yes common sense things…you can also teach your child about proper gun safety as well…
I have been. I’m trying to figure out why you seem to think I’m some libertarian… I’m assuming it’s because I’m very pro2a.
I did not. I am simple saying that people that cannot be responsible with their guns should not have them. Your insistence on defending those who are irresponsible make me feel you should be disarmed as well perhaps.
Yeah, your shit takes justifying others shitty behavior.
Interesting you don’t denouce that behavior.
I see all kinds of bad gun ownership and fuckwads like you defending it is appaling. People leave their guns in plain view in cars in public parking lots, forget them out in a yard, or drunk and shooting them.
Gun problems also go beyond kids being harmed, so you simply pulling those stats and ignoring the rest is very disingenuous of you.
Seriously tho, read the start of the thread again. I took a reasonable position on the matter. Its you and that other person that went out of their way to be unreasonable and defend irresponsible gun owners. And you are the one who made it about kids to begin with. Then half way you try some “not every house has kids BS” backing out of your original point.
I simply said that leaving guns around for a just in case is not very responsible.
So yeah, I am calling you a disingenuous person. And one that is emotionally unready for this conversation, so I will be stopping here.