“Disinformation spreading” is irrelevant in this discussion. LLM’s are a whole separate conversation. This is about image generators. And on that topic, you position the tech as “energy guzzling” when that’s not necessarily always the case, as people often show; and profit-driven, except what about the cases where it’s being used to contribute to the free information commons?
And lastly you’re leaving out the ableism in being blindly anti-AI. People with artistic skills are still at an advantage over people who either lack them, are too poor to hire skilled artists, and/or are literally disabled whether physically or cognitively. The fact is AI is allowing more people than ever to bring their ideas into reality, where otherwise they would have never been able to.
Listen, if you want to argue for facilitating image creation for people who aren’t skilled artists, I—and many more people—are willing to listen. But this change cannot be built on top of the exploitation of worldwide artists. That’s beyond disrespectful, it’s outright cruel.
I could talk about the other points you’re making, but if you were to remember one single thing from this conversation, please let it be this: supporting the AI trend as it is right now is hurting people. Talk to artists, to writers, even many programmers.
We can still build the tech ethically when the bubble pops, when we all get a moment to breathe, and talk about how to do it right, without Sam Altman and his million greedy investors trying to drive the zeitgeist for the benefit of their stocks, at the cost of real people.
There are literally image generation tools that are open-source. Even Krita has a plugin available. There are multiple datasets that can be trained on, other than the one that flagrantly infringed everyone’s copyrights, and there is no shortage of instructions online for how people can put together their own datasets for training. All of this can be run offline.
So no, anyone has everything they need to do this right, right now if they want to. Getting hysterical about it, and dishonestly claiming that it all “steals” from artists helps no one.
“Disinformation spreading” is irrelevant in this discussion. LLM’s are a whole separate conversation. This is about image generators. And on that topic, you position the tech as “energy guzzling” when that’s not necessarily always the case, as people often show; and profit-driven, except what about the cases where it’s being used to contribute to the free information commons?
And lastly you’re leaving out the ableism in being blindly anti-AI. People with artistic skills are still at an advantage over people who either lack them, are too poor to hire skilled artists, and/or are literally disabled whether physically or cognitively. The fact is AI is allowing more people than ever to bring their ideas into reality, where otherwise they would have never been able to.
Listen, if you want to argue for facilitating image creation for people who aren’t skilled artists, I—and many more people—are willing to listen. But this change cannot be built on top of the exploitation of worldwide artists. That’s beyond disrespectful, it’s outright cruel.
I could talk about the other points you’re making, but if you were to remember one single thing from this conversation, please let it be this: supporting the AI trend as it is right now is hurting people. Talk to artists, to writers, even many programmers.
We can still build the tech ethically when the bubble pops, when we all get a moment to breathe, and talk about how to do it right, without Sam Altman and his million greedy investors trying to drive the zeitgeist for the benefit of their stocks, at the cost of real people.
There are literally image generation tools that are open-source. Even Krita has a plugin available. There are multiple datasets that can be trained on, other than the one that flagrantly infringed everyone’s copyrights, and there is no shortage of instructions online for how people can put together their own datasets for training. All of this can be run offline.
So no, anyone has everything they need to do this right, right now if they want to. Getting hysterical about it, and dishonestly claiming that it all “steals” from artists helps no one.