AngryMob

People at home using their gpus for a mix of gaming and local ai are not really the source of that issue

For your first part, i agree dev art has its charms. I don’t necessarily think that charm is lost if AI is introduced with a light touch to help them out. For sure if they just prompt and use slop then yeah, thats way worse. Curious, what if a dev hires an artist, and that artist uses AI tools in some form or another? Assuming they provide what the dev wants for the project at good quality, is there still an issue here?

I do agree with some of the copyright issues and computation issues in your second part. I don’t know what the solutions and future hold for this. I honestly just cede those points to the anti-ai crowd. It doesn’t stop me from being a supporter of these tools overall, but im mostly just interested from the technology side itself. And i really only use local models to tinker with them as a hobbiest, not posting anything.

Also side note, steam is already flooded with asset flips, functionally no different, haha.

Well to be fair, i don’t like art made by humans that are assholes either.

Though i dont agree that ai is inherently equal to those human assholes. Especially since for most of the important use cases (ie not spamming ai slop all over galleries online), an artist is usually the one influencing the ai tools, not the other way around.

If you’re mirroring the example being discussed above, then wouldn’t the alternative be that the game doesnt exist in the first place? The musician or artist cant afford to hire a game dev for x amount of time to make a game at all, thats why they used the tool. But using the tool allowed them to get closer to their vision anyway, even if it is imperfect.

Aside from drop rates everything you said applies to Valve too. Counter Strike skins can be traded or sold for real cash (tied to steam wallet, but still), and you can purchase singles of what you want.

I know other games loot boxes dont follow this, but its interesting for the sake of comparison.

Shhh. They forgot about us, let it stay that way a little longer!

Also have asthmatic cat, all of these non-medicine steps are great tips for cleaner air and they truly do help. Some more: vacuum/wash pet furniture, pine pellet litter instead of clay, swap dryer sheets for unscented balls, don’t burn candles, keep windows shut during bad days, brush your cat to help with excess fur and dander.

Basically the goal is to reduce any and all irritants you can think of, some tips obviously are more expensive or time consuming than others. Start where you can, even the small stuff helps.

Performance mostly. But also even when made by various AAA studios, the resulting games often have this uncanny similar-ness to them. Personally i prefer in-house engines even if its just to maintain variety in the industry.

Also obligatory shout out to id tech for continuing to show off their engines with indiana jones.

intentionally wastes everyone’s time and energy by entering a conversation but refusing to participate past that

Gets mad and sensitive when people get irritated due to aforementioned time wasting despite repeatedly asking them to simply join the conversation

You need some thicker skin to survive outside of your phone.

After avoiding the topic for this long but continuing to drag it out do you expect less? At this point i just enjoy watching you dig a hole, its entertaining how sensitive you got about this.

You’re just trolling at this point but hey i’ll do what you can’t and justify my own words.

“monopoly” in some peoples’ opinions (not mine but im open to their dominance being a bad thing anyway), 30% cut (still an industry standard but could and should be lower despite the value it provides), drm (optional but fuck drm in any form), gambling (no parenthesis needed i hope), returns and support itself being rather limited. Im sure we can come up with more.

None of those are enshittification.

Nobody has even shit on you, its not shitting on you to simply disagree. You seem to just have thin skin. You’ve typed endless replies and it would have taken much less time and effort to simply explain your position. I think the real issue is you can’t justify your position after you thought about it more. Because steam is many things, good and bad, but enshittified aint one of em. But just like many sensitive posters on social media, you’d rather comment repeatedly about every other sentence people write, rather than the topic at hand. Like my username, since that’s so relevant lol…

You’ve still yet to actually say how steam is enshittified despite several comments asking. You reply but dodge the real question.

Ah yes, so that they will be replaced with someone much worse. Great plan.

What about people who have artistic thoughts but have trouble getting them out of their head? I would argue that is most people because most of us arent artists. We also arent going to pay a commission for every idea we have. A simple image generator can be valid for that.

Also you are ignoring those who may even refine their prompt generated images (which are usually what people see as ai slop) into something better using all the new tools and techniques available now (inpainting, controlnets, regional guidance, etc). I dont think that is any less of an artistic process or artistic outlet than doing it with photoshop or with physical media.

To add on to your comment. Even beyond job/industry, its like your cooking example. I spin up an llm locally at home for random tasks. An llm can be your personal fitness coach, help you with budgeting, improve your emails, summarize news articles, help with creative writing, christmas shopping list ideas, brainstorm plants for your new garden, etc etc. they can fit into so many simple roles that you sporadically need.

Its just so easy to fall into the trap of hating them because of the bullshit surrounding them.

Yes obviously. One is completely transparent about being incomplete, often discounted. The other is deceitful and lying about incomplete and charging you full price.

If only there was some sort of early access system to allow devs to get some monetization while they finish developing their ambitious game.

Its only novel that they got away with claiming a full release of their early access game.

So everyone that doesn’t put their life on hold and join you in protest is your enemy. Got it. Enjoy having very few allies. That’s not how you win people over or start any sort of movement. Sympathizers are valuable to your cause too. Maybe you’ll notice that eventually.

What exactly do you want me, the average white guy to do? Hang myself in the street because my ancestors were assholes? I acknowledge they were assholes and they built a system that fucks you over. I, a powerless cog in the machine, treat everyone with the same respect i expect for myself. I vote democrat because the alternative is worse for both of us, yet you still hate me. Okay.