ROUND 5: 🇸🇦 Saudi Arabia


FORMULA 1 STC SAUDI ARABIAN GRAND PRIX 2025


Circuit stats


  • First Grand Prix: 2021
  • Number of laps: 50
  • Circuit Length: 6.174 km
  • Race Distance: 308.45 km
  • Lap record: 1:30.734 Lewis Hamilton (2021)
  • 2024 winner: Max Verstappen

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  • Coelacanth@feddit.nu
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    The classic go off track turn one to keep position manoeuvre by Max there. F2 was full of it as well.

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      While I agree he should have given it back, Piastri also either steered into him/lost control and went deep into the corner further than a normal racing line. So curious what the stewards would think.

      Edit: 5 penalty seconds for this, if you think it’s penalty worthy, remains stupid. It should always be at least 10.

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        I agree with the stewards here that it’s on Max. Though he will happily keep track position and try to make a gap. This is a classic Max move, one of his signatures tbh. Wasn’t it Mexico last year as well for example? Really kind of tired of this stuff from him honestly.

        EDIT: I completely agree about the penalty though and I thought they already said they were going to use 10 sec as the baseline just for the reason that 5 is so often worth it.

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          All champions we had in the past 30 or so years were willing to play dirty. It’s part of the sport really… or rather, soap opera where occasionally some cars drive around.

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            I absolutely know why he does it and it’s very smart. Like I said, taking the 5 seconds is absolutely worth it.

            I’m still kind of tired of it though.

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              Yeah, the penalty is almost a “tut tut”, especially considering the pace Max currently shows. He’s adding tenths per lap to everyone behind him.

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          Did you see that replay on the international feed just now? Piastri was going to divebomb force contact if he didn’t go off. I think both their behaviours are fair play to try in racing, but saying this is classic unsportsmanlike behaviour seems like you’re being influenced too much by British commentators.

          It was literally the other way around with Hamilton in Monza but somehow both situations were his fault? He is ofcourse a driver that will race on the edge of the rules so of he gets punished for something he’ll force others into it.

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            I’m not British and I don’t listen to the British feed, but I have admittedly seen this move from Max enough that I might admittedly carry some prejudice from that.

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              Fair enough, I do listen to the British commentators since they are just more pleasant to listen to vocally for me than the Dutch speaking ones. But their commentating is just always anti-Verstappen. Yet even they ceded after the replay of the incident that Piastri is lucky he just barely got control of his car in time.

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                Sky or F1? If you have access to the official F1 colmentators, they tend to have a much more neutral view.

                Also, I’m currently watching the F1 stream synced with audio from Grand Prix Radio (Olav Mol & Jack Plooij). So, less glorifying of Max. (I’m currently watching with my mother whose level of English is much lower, so prefers Dutch commentary.)

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                  F1TV international feed with Palmer etc. I know they’re not the most neutral and I don’t expect them to be. I just enjoy the hype they’re good at bringing. But I do think many people let their opinion on the race be influenced by them. (Just like if you watch MMA you’ll be influenced by the often very dumb opinion of Rogan).

                  I’m Flemish, so the accent of any Dutch person grates too much for me. ;-) (‘g’ doesn’t have to sound like a failed gear change every damn word ;-) )

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    Great overtake by Leclerc, bad way direction showed it live. It basically didn’t even show the actual overtake. They had to do a damn replay for it.

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      There is no deg here, only overheating it seems. Could have possibly gone M-S honestly seeing as he was in clear air.

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    Did we miss the incident with Lawson and Doohan? No way is what we saw on screen 2x as bad as Piastri and Verstappen

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      Was given leniency as it was the first lap. The penalties are a nonsense though. If anything, being so early in the race and there being no time limit when to take the penalty means the 5s is much much lighter than 10s in the middle of the race and pitstops. I would rather see consistent 5s penalties and they have 3 laps to take it in. So you can’t do a lunge, ignore the track limits and scamper off in clean air for 25 laps, which is what Max clearly wanted to do and almost managed it. That would have been a tragedy of the stewarding if it had happened that way.

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      Can’t remember seeing it, but I must admit to spending time here too when it looks slow because I am happy other people on Lemmy also like F1.

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        We saw an overtake where the car that overtook went maybe a tyre’s width over the white line. I wasn’t even sure they’d went off the track from the camera angle we had. That’s why I’m wondering if it was another incident the next lap maybe

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          Yeah what I saw for from Lawson going deep didn’t seem like a 10 second penalty, dude can’t seem to catch a break!

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    “That was Gabi, he might not have a manager tonight anymore” - Piastri on the Bortoleto-Alonso situation 😅